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Post by RawkHawk Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:50 am

Stewart.64 wrote:
I agree with that Very Happy Imagine how amazing the game would be if Sonic were in it!

RawkHawk, do you have any idea about what game we're talking about here? Sonic has had the worst selection of 3D games EVER, why? Because of the voice! Horrible American rat is what he is! He even managed to kill off the spirit of SSBB! DAMNIT YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY RAGE! AAARGH!

He would kill off Galaxy and my love for Nintendo the second it's officially announced! Re-think what you just said boi!

Soooo...you're ranting at me because I said the game could be good with Sonic, and you somehow thought that linked to voice actors? O_o By 'amazing', I mean 'Avatar Amazing' in the sense that it would make history, might not be the best thing ever, but would indeed make history. I personally don't think this is true anyway.

I rethought what I said, and my point still stands. I hate the voice acting in Sonic games, especially for Tails, but that's no reason to say the whole series is horrible. Would your point still stand if a 2D game was made with voice acting?
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:10 am

Can we at least wait until:

1) Things are confirmed
2) To see what Sonic actually *DOES* in the game?
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Post by RawkHawk Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:20 am

GhostAnime wrote:Can we at least wait until:

1) Things are confirmed
2) To see what Sonic actually *DOES* in the game?

I think people just like to debate and speculate beforehand. Some places say he'll be playable, others say he'll just appear in a minor role on a planet.
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Post by Smudge Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:41 am

I think I just came with anticipation....
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Post by Pwiimus Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:26 am

lol Smudge, took your time to say something Very Happy

I don't see how it is anymore unbelieveable than it is believeable. It's not like it's the SNES and Megadrive were every 10 year old took sides and sent pics into mags of either character decapitating each other lol.

I for one would welcome it and am choosing not to take a negative view towards the possibility Twisted Evil
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Post by Smudge Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:13 am

Yeah, I've not been online much this weekend

I just got the Image of Sonic riding a Yoshi, it made me L.O.L.
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Post by Pwiimus Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:24 am

Or Sonic in a Bee suit lol
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Post by Smudge Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:36 am

0_o


I need to get out more.... lol
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Post by Kuroneko Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:58 am

I think it would be interesting for sonic to be in an Mario game, though i think it's somewhat unlikely since it's Super Mario Galaxy 2..........

But in all plausibility since mario goes to different planets why not sonic's? I mean there is good openness for this to become a slight crossover with certain games.

SMG2 sounds fairly interesting maybe i'll get myself my own personal wii so that way i don't have to share the game with my sister
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Post by Komodo_Zero Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:13 am

I think this is about as plausible as man decending from a peanut. Mostly because I simply believe Nintendo wouldn't let SEGA near a main series Mario title even if it would cost the company it's existance.
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:31 am

Why are you so confident in saying that? It's not like they said it was impossible out of their own mouths.
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Post by Komodo_Zero Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:03 am

I think, I believe, they're all opinions. If I'm not confident in stating my opinions then I won't get very far in life really.

Besides, even if I'm wrong it won't matter. I'm going to keep my stance until I'm proved otherwise.
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:05 am

Sure you are allowed to have an opinion but I don't know why you're so sure of something that really has no basis. There's being confident and then there's going beyond your own limits of what you actually know. You won't get far in life if you assume everything about your boss.
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Post by PlatinumSamusUK Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:33 am

Komodo_Zero wrote:I think this is about as plausible as man decending from a peanut.
We share 50% of our genes with a banana...


I'm still no more swayed that sticking Sonic in a Mario platformer conforms to any sense of logic. There's no use for him as a protagonist, antagonist or cameo character. His appearance would only cause contextual confusion; it simply makes no sense to have him appear in any role.
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Post by Komodo_Zero Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:36 am

I seem to have hit a brick wall with a belief I have. How jazzy.

Where did I say I assumed all this as well? I'm just saying I find it very hard to believe. I'll come to accept it as well if it ends up being true. I may not like it, but if it's a determined fact I won't argue.

I generally don't like arguements, so I'm going to stop here before it get's out of hand. These are my final comments.
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Post by PlatinumSamusUK Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:39 am

You're frustrated that I shared your opinion on it being unlikely?

Fair enough...
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:47 am

Where did I say I assumed all this as well?

I seem to have hit a brick wall with a belief I have.

I think this is about as plausible as man decending from a peanut.
You know, these two messages comparing to the last, at least to me, do not go well together.

Also what's "contextual confusion"? Who doesn't know Sonic and Mario at this point, and how would it confuse anybody?
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Post by Komodo_Zero Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:53 am

PlatinumSamusUK wrote:You're frustrated that I shared your opinion on it being unlikely?

Fair enough...
Not your views, as we have pretty much identical ones, but GA's statements about how I phrased mine.
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:04 am

It's more about some of the people's confidence in it being impossible, and the only reasons really suggested are "But but but it's Sonic and Sega!" Essentially, our own bias and past feelings. Yes, right now it doesn't make sense, but I don't deny that it at least can make sense.
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Post by PlatinumSamusUK Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:07 am

GhostAnime wrote:Also what's "contextual confusion"? Who doesn't know Sonic and Mario at this point, and how would it confuse anybody?

In what context would an appearence from Sonic in a Mario Platformer make sense? There'd be no way to fit him in without creating a contrived storyline that really would not be fit for purpose. A Mario and sonic combined platformer with two very different styles for the two characters could work, but not now, and not in Galaxy 2.
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:16 am

Under the sense that Sonic is a major part of the game and combining both, I really doubt that will happen; however I can still see the case of some type of unlockable feature. Although Sonic in 3D is vastly different from Mario in 3D, a novelty of using Sonic's speed in a Mario game doesn't sound half bad. It's more like one of those "What if.."
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Post by Smudge Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:40 am

Sonic is kinda like Luigi was in SMG 1?

Mario take a wrong turn and lands on Mobiius/Floating Island/Whatever

In an accident, Robotnik accidentally sends the entirety of Mobius into an alternate (Mario) Dimension, in an attempt to rule all, he Kindanaps Princess Peach, in order to help defeat him, Mario asks for help off Sonic

The story is more farfetch'd the further you read down the page, but impossible? not at all
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Post by NotNamedJohn Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:10 pm

NotNamedJohn wrote:
  1. Why would Sonic be in the game? Why would SEGA or Nintendo want him in the game?
  2. How would he fit into the story or gameplay?
  3. How does news like this get leaked from Nintendo when they're so good at keeping secrets?
  4. What does SEGA have to do with SMG2?
I haven't seen anyone try to answer these questions. Reasons for implausibility? Look no further. These reasons don't go for every possible appearance of Sonic in a Mario game, just this one. And since it is just this rumored appearance in Super Mario Galaxy 2, I see no problem with that.

So does anybody want to answer those four questions, or shall we just keep ignoring them?
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Post by GhostAnime Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:38 pm

Why would Sonic be in the game? Why would SEGA or Nintendo want him in the game?
You could ask this for plenty of cameo games. There's no clear reason to want Snake in Smash, for example. Nobody literally asked for him. Yes, it's a spin-off, but it's the same concept.

How would he fit into the story or gameplay?
Don' think he'd fit in the story, but gameplay wise may take a lot of work, but it's not impossible. Sonic is based on speed but some Galaxy stages would be fun as Sonic now that I think about it.

How does news like this get leaked from Nintendo when they're so good at keeping secrets?
This doesn't really dictate anything about it being impossible.

What does SEGA have to do with SMG2?
Well we're just fans. I don't even know what kind of question this is. We just don't know what's going on behind the curtains, but at the same time we don't know enough to say it's impossible or outside of their agendas.
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Post by Smudge Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:46 am

I think what GA is trying to get is the difference between Impossible and Extremely unlikely. Something I agree with

I mean, back in the era of Megadrive, you would NEVER have though that Sonic and Mario would be in the same game, but look, there already in 3 separate titles.
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